New Respect for Bozzio

[benrand]

I was listening to Bongo Fury the other day and the stuff Terry plays on Debra Cadabra is just sick...you have to get by the craziness of Captain Beefheart to hear it, but it's there...I liked his drum sound here too.

On the rush tribute record, I think Deen Castronovo kills the tunes he plays on. He brings more of a Neil intensity to it than Portnoy. I hanve't listened to that disc in years.

[five eight]

ZAPPA IN NEW YORK and SHEIK YERBOUTI are to Terry what all three acts of JOE's GARAGE are to Vinnie. (Can I get an 'amen' OR a 'he-hah, Sergeant?') Bozzio has always been great; he can even play comedy drums. On ZAPPA IN NEW YORK check out how he interprets the chart in the middle of the vocal line "They heard those titties plop-plopping (fill) all around the world," during Titties & Beer. It takes a genius like Zappa to write something like that and a genius like Bozzio to realize it. Those floor toms sound remarkably like burlesque boobs knocking together.

Bozzio (or Simon Phillips) would make the Rush drum chair so hot to sit in Neil would have to do a decade of Gruber before he'd dare sit back down.

[Carter_B]

O Baterista I don't want to sound harsh but do you know that there are places called cd stores where you can actually buy a piece of plastic called a cd which is sold with its booklet !!!! Incredible news I know !
Well if you had the booklet of this Rush tribute cd you could have learned that :
1. There are 4 different drummers on this CD : Mike Portnoy; Deen Castronovo, Mark Zonder (Fates Warning) and Jeff Brockman.
2. Sebastian Bach is not singing on all the tunes. There are a lot of different singers in fact !
On Natural Science it is Devin Townsend ( Strapping Young Lad) and on Red Barchetta it is James Labrie (Dream Theater singer)

Of course if you in deed bought the album : ignore my post !
If you don't have : report to Mr Lars Ulrich, he will explain to you a lot of things !!!!

[FuseU1]

JM - Man, thx for that UK live boot, broeski. Yeah, if ya can, keep 'em comin'... [img]redface.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]

"...Wackerman footage with Robben Ford at Yoshi's/...?!" Wow, didn't know that! Is this a vid? Sounds killer! [I really dig Chad's fusion playing, esp on the Holdsworth material & FZ live] [img]cool.gif[/img] Robben [AWA Allan, FZ] only plays w the best: VC, Gary N, Tom B, Chad, etc. I'm sure there's more.

I agree, Andy E [& MntnMan62]...I have "The Brecker Bros Collection Vol 2 [Novus Series '70]," which has quite a few tunes off HMBB [I never could find the actual disc]...good stuff. I also have Dweezil Zappa's My Guitar wants to kill your Mama...it also has Brooks Wackerman.

Terry used to have a killer groove (and I'm sure he still does) and as much as I can see what he has done for drumming with his solo drum thing I still rate him most highly for the artistry, aggression and individuality he brought to his early recordings

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I feel this way about a lot of players. I mean, VC, DW, TBoz...all have gone on to new heights, but they were still just as valid & burnin' in the "beginning," to me. Something to do w youthful desire, aggression, testosterone, & "something to prove," I believe[?]... [img]wink.gif[/img]

Baterista - I can't believe that i haven't heard that Rush trib. That version of Villa sounds like a must hear [w Morse & Sheehan] - awesome. & Deen, Zonder, too...I need to look for that. I've heard a version of Villa that had Greg Howe on gtr [don't know the other players]...

Carter - Baterista didn't say that Bach sang on all tunes, but he did seem to say that about Portnoy...? Zonder was another guy whom I feel could fill the Rush chair well...of course, this is all silly conjecture. NP's there; & it's right where he's supposed to be, & that's why all those other cats have their own bands & bags. ;c)

5/8 - 'amen' AND a 'he-hah, soldier!'

Those floor toms sound remarkably like burlesque boobs knocking together.
Bozzio (or Simon Phillips) would make the Rush drum chair so hot to sit in Neil would have to do a decade of Gruber before he'd dare sit back down.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's pure comedy heaven. Oh, & a big bag of ice, too.

If you don't have: report to Lars Ulrich, he will explain to you a lot of things

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL [img]wink.gif[/img]

My addition:
Such as, why he ain't on the R-Trib disc?! [img]tongue.gif[/img] J/K

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ March 14, 2005 09:10 PM: Message edited by: fuseU1 ]</font>

[MntnMan62]

I have to say, growing up in the 70's, lots of my friends were listening to Rush and spouting about how amazing and technical Neil Peart was. Maybe I'm missing something but while he did have some great chops, I thought his playing was stiff and, well, predictable. I had trouble sitting down and listening to Peart when Bozzio was kicking it like a wild man. Also, Vinnie was just behind Terry in FZ's chair. Not to mention Gadd, Lenny White, Gerry Brown, Ndugu, Cobham, Narada (especially with Mahavishnu), Kenwood, all the dudes who played with Weather Report, man, there are so many amazing drummers. I just never got Peart. Bozzio on the other hand, sick. I agree, Debra Kadabra is awesome. Same for Carolina Hardcore Ecstasy. And for some more recent Bozzio playing with a band instead of himself, check out Bozzio, Levin Stevens. Situation Dangerous has some great groove drumming on it.

[dave991]

Carter B- My mistake fully. I don't have the booklet. And no, I didn't download it. A few songs were burned for me a long time ago my a usually knowleadgable buddy. Can't tell if your sarcasm is being said with a smile or a sneer, but if it is the latter then just chill out. There are things in life called mistakes and people like myself can make them.

So I stand corrected. And rightly so.

Fuse- Yeah, 'La Villa..' burns. I haven't heard the whole CD, but the other tunes I heard were ok at best.

[FuseU1]

MntnMan62, I hear you completely.

I was weened on pop radio, classical & symphony orchestra, AWA a little big-band [Buddy Rich, Tonight Show, Dorseys, Glenn Miller, Goodman, Duke, Dizzy, also Alpert, Mancini, Harry James, Oscar & Hammerstein, etc] when I was younger.

My first picking up of the sticks was thanks to the impact of hearing Rush for the forst time on comm/AOR radio back in 1980; "Spirit of Radio" / Permanent Waves, to be exact.

Along with the other "prog"-rock bands like Genesis, Yes, Kansas, ELP, Crimson, Tull, AWA Zep, Journey [yes, Journey], Halen, Police; this in turn led me to start listening to the great jazz-rock-fusion bands that permeated the late 70s & 80s like Mahavishnu, McLaughlin, Spectrum & Glass Menagerie, RTF, DiMeola, Stanley Clarke, Dregs, JLPonty, UK, Zappa, Holdsworth, Chick, Metheny, Herbie, Brand X, Weather Report, Coryell/11th House, Miles, Tony's Lifetine, TOP, etc etc.

Which in turen led me straight into SA jazz, be-bop, swing ['Trane, Bird, Thelonius, Tyner, Herbie, Jarrett, Garner, etc], & then latin, etc.

So, I began to realize that there were far more serious players out there [much to my chagrin [img]wink.gif[/img] ] after I'd learned all those old Rush tunes note for rhythmic note & thought I was getting somewhere. [Thanks, Rod, Lenny, & Cobham & then esp Vinnie & Weckl for cwushing my widdle pea-bwain to a fine powda' - it was rough going at first, but it made me a better player AWA listener...]

What I meant was, Rush is Rush because of the teaming of Lee, Lifeson, & Peart. That trio combination is what made them the indentifiable rock unit that they were, & what made them, well, "Rush." Just obvious stuff. [img]wink.gif[/img]

I have LONG since realized that there are plenty of far more frightening players in my heroes-list, but I still can't hear anyone else in Rush but NP, as his third is integral in the puzzle to their rock sound. Lyrics, too...

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ March 14, 2005 11:18 PM: Message edited by: fuseU1 ]</font>